12/28/03
Fred Allebach
PO Box 4588, WRJ, VT 05001
fca25@yahoo.com
Hello Davis,
I am interested in exploring some themes vis a vis utility,
functionality, reality and brand names, specifically the whole Ford/ Chevy
thing, but also more abstractly, what is Quality and how do we know it? What
constitutes a reasonable value judgment and how would we be able to
discriminate between truth and bullshit?
Why is reason different for different people? It is all my opinion, resulting
from my interests and personal history.
For a person sitting on the sidelines, brand loyalty is a
curious phenomenon. Your dear mother is
totally sold on Listerine and will not hear of it when I show her that brand X,
with the exact same ingredients, and lots less expensive, is really the same
stuff, just as good. Is brand X not as good because it is less expensive and
therefore “cheap?” It is almost like magical belief, to think that two things
with the same ingredients are different. Could the package somehow transfer
some unknown power to the mouthwash that would
make the otherwise same ingredients different?
Is there something about the packaging that makes a person
feel better about drinking a fucking Heineken versus a Milwaukee’s Best? Is a
beer a beer? Is a truck a truck? Some
generic medicines are far less expensive, contain the exact same
ingredients, and are just as efficacious, yet people will buy Advil thinking it
is somehow a better form of ibuprofen. I don’t see the logic about that, but
maybe as I proceed here, it will become clear that logic does not have much to
do with preference.
The role of hype, or market pressure, has to be considered.
With a beer, perhaps if we put Dog Piss Beer in a Heineken bottle, then Yuppies
would think it was great, not knowing that they had been duped by sheer hype.
With beer I think packaging has more to do with status than actual quality or
taste, people go for the packaging and the price, believing it must be better.
I think they would not know if the product inside was actually cheap shit. I hate, hate to be hyped, yet I am receptive
to hype I believe is somehow true, and then I don’t see it as hype. I even hew
to a sort of reverse hype, I take pleasure in getting the cheapest, much to
people’s horror and disgust, “how can you drink that!?” Certainly many
believe that if a product costs more, than it must be better. I think that is
mostly bullshit myself but I would admit that some things that cost more
actually are better, like meat products, clothes, stereo equipment etc., but
there is also an outer limit beyond which more quality will not make any
difference, that is the land for extremists, hobbyists, fanatics, folks who are
just really into it. For example, how can a pair of new jeans actually cost $60
or more dollars? There is no way in Hell they are really worth that much,
people are paying for hype and packaging. (And Captain Reverse Hype goes to the
dumpster and laughs all the way home.)
The trouble for people is in distinguishing between what is
hype and what might be actually true. With no way to measure or analyze whether
a claim is genuine or spurious, it all gets down to how a person feels, what
hype they tend to be receptive too. How can we know if a car is actually any
good? If I read Consumer Reports and not Car and Driver, then my
information is slanted one way. I would have to read everything to form a
larger opinion, as I cannot trust that any statements by anybody are not
influenced by hype and not fact. AND, what facts are changes, it is not the
same, for some, the only fact necessary is the brand, for others, it will
depend on measures of size, power, reliability, service record. The critical
point here is that facts are skewed from the start by the initial assumptions
about what is desirable. There are no facts because it is impossible for people
to be objective. People can’t be objective because they are descended from
fucking apes and they are tribal, clannish, intolerant of difference, hot under
the collar and ready to fight. Human history is filled with strife and war
precisely because people have fought over stupid shit that doesn’t really
matter, but of which a big deal is made.
For me, and this is my own judgment, I really don’t care
about American cars, I believe Japanese cars are of the highest quality and
that is what I want. I admit that I am under the spell of hype myself, and why
I buy this hype, versus other hype, is just my own peculiar thing, arising from
my own peculiar history and knowledge. I have reasons, but I know they are not
equivalent to the truth. I know no one else has the truth either. It is all
preference. My reasons: many to all my friends have or like Toyotas. People who
camp out a lot have Toyotas. Rock climbers and outfitters have Toyotas. You see
Toyotas in Africa and Arabia, on tough substrates. My model year and close
years are known to run for very high mileage. You see them everywhere, so they
must be good. I associate myself with an image, that puts me in a tribe of car
people.
Car customization is a fascinating area to observe, as most
people enjoy customizing their ride in one way or another. A vehicle is a very
public statement about who is inside it and what they represent. I can think of
low riders, muscle cars, trucks, sports cars, roadsters, and luxury cars among
others. I personally appreciate them
all, but tend to scoff at luxury cars and roadsters as being owned by assholes.
I don’t want to be in thosae tribes. Within all of these kinds of customization
there are quite a few variations and plenty of room for people to express
themselves. You see all kind of stuff on cars and trucks and even though a
person may be from one school or another, I can myself, appreciate the joy and
devotion people put into their vehicles, as I have been there myself with my
cars, in my own way. I maintain that it is all the same phenomena, just
different vehicles and styles. I don’t feel the need to tear someone else down
to build myself up. I like my truck just for what it is, not because it is
“better” than a Nissan or a Chevy. I
have had fun with my truck, it is a statement about my personal history and
travels.
But with different car tribes you get into what Elaine
Pagels termed “the intimate enemy” effect. In her books about early
Christianity and the history of the Devil, she spoke about the tendency of
Christians to vilify and demonize the Jews. (Christianity grew out of Judaism
and they are VERY similar.) Christians and Jews are so similar; they can argue
about minute differences in doctrine and get really worked up about it. These differences
seem pitifully small to anyone looking from the outside in. Christians and Jews
normally don’t care about Shinto or Buddhism, as it is so different, there is
not much to contend. But, you get some mainline Protestants together and they
will all get worked up about Mormons. This is the phenomenon of the intimate
enemy: the more similar you are to someone else, or to another tribe, then the
more contentious relations will be. The larger the difference, the less those
differences hit home.
Every human being is partial and accepts into fact only
certain domains of knowledge and ignores the rest. We may need to be this way,
as we cannot know the whole world all at once. In academics this is what is
called lining up your soldiers, getting all your ducks in a row, picking and
choosing. Partialization is how we can conveniently ignore any information that
is contrary to what we believe to be true. Partialization is how we can call
bullshit on stuff we don’t like. In other ways, it allows us to reduce other
human beings to animal status, so we can slaughter them, vilify them, call them
bad names and generally feel high and mighty over them. Everybody is doing it
to each other at the same time, so it can get quite messy. Here again, the
facts don’t matter, as it is the primary assumption, the operating premises
that lay underneath which direct the consumption of “facts” and information. “It
is the theory that decides what we can observe.” Albert Einstein.
A non-partial look would include all sources of information,
even that contrary to what we believe. BUT, that takes the FAITH out of the
BELIEF, and so people generally do not even want to entertain information that
is contrary to their belief, as that would be too hard, too uncomfortable, too
dynamic, too out there, then there would be no belief and we would be
scientists, dealing with reality. However, even scientists are petty
assholes who are plenty partial, so the notion of any objective world is mired
in constant argument. It is more about how people want the world to be rather
than how it actually is. In my opinion, it is better to allow people their
differences and maybe even appreciate them, but that is an ideal and not
something I can practice all the time.
Everyone has his or her preferences. Preferences are
equivalent to “personal truths”. Trouble comes when people attempt to extend
their personal truths into the arena of “general truths”. We could debate
whether there is even any general truth, and what that might be? Many an
argument comes from confusing personal preferences with some general truth.
Religion and politics are classic examples, which get so serious that people
get slaughtered and tortured for mere differences of opinion, that don’t hurt
anyone. Personal and group opinions and preferences get confused with some kind
of fictive absolute truth. (And why the hell should others be hunted down like
dogs just for being different?) Here is a conundrum: we try to establish some
general arena where people can agree that this set of ideas and behaviors do
not hurt anyone, they are all OK to everyone. We might say that civil unions or
gay marriage does not hurt anybody, but then Bible literalists will say it does
hurt them, because it is against God’s desires. We might say watching TV until midnight
is permissible to all, but then some whiny butt will complain that it keeps
them up. The upshot is that there is nothing that that will not piss somebody
off and therefore, a general truth is actually impossible to achieve, because
of the diversity of opinion and inherent tribalism of humanity.
Musical preferences are another area where people argue
endlessly about things that just don’t matter beyond one’s own personal
preferences. If Kim likes Crash Test Dummies and I don’t so much, I still want to
honor her likes; if I condemn her likes, I condemn her, and that I do not want
to do. I’ll give it a listen; try to find something there. If parties involved
actually believe they are contesting some immutable truths, as in Jerry Garcia
is better than Roger Waters, then there is no end, no answer, only strife and
suffering. With Kim I want to try and appreciate her choices and likes. With a
stranger I might be less inclined to be sympathetic. Here is illustrated again,
the stranger, the outsider, the Other, can be reduced to being less than human,
just a bunch of fucking flatlanders. It is apparently easier to judge and
condemn than it is to accept human variety.
All of music, all of life, is a tapestry within which the
threads are people’s lives and interests. For one thread to call the other no
good is stupid beyond pale, as they both are holding the world together. Can
the pot call the kettle black and have that really mean anything? And where do I
get off trying to seem like I know what stupid is and others don’t?
In religion, absolute truth is based on an unchanging and
immutable moral substrate, given by God. These types of credos include: that
homosexuality is against God, that any behavior not sanctioned in the Bible is
a sin, that Nature is given to Man to exploit, animals have no souls, and who
gives a fuck about pollution or global warming, as we are all going to Heaven
anyway afterwards and earth is just like a big sandbox for us sheep of the Lord
to either act good or be condemned to Hell for all eternity. (beeeeep: run-on
sentence) And let us not forget that those who work on Sunday should be stoned
to death. If Gay behavior and marriage is a sin, then by God, so is working on
Sunday! (Tell that to the Brethren, “I can’t do any homework for half of the
weekend, because I can’t work on Sunday.) All the major religions have similar
stuff and you can always tell a fundamentalist by how rigid they are. There is
no discussion; Ford is better than Chevy.
In here somewhere I might mention the difference between
being religious and spirituality. Religious is group oriented and frequently
dogmatic, spiritual is personal and frequently dogmatic. And mystical is a
personal contact with the divine, unmediated by clergy. Religion is threatened
by mysticism because a mystic does not need anything religion has to offer.
And, what do religions do with mystics? Well, they burn them, hang them,
torture them as heretics and infidels because they believe something else other
than the official line.
Now, there are moral substrates that do not rest on
unchanging, absolute ground. These are made by man and are subject to constant
argument. This is the arena of secular humanism, of which many dogmatic
religions consider to be the ultimate sin, rules of men rather than God. I
prefer this myself, as at least people can talk and exchange and work things
through, there can be discussion. It is more like the New England town meeting,
people get to have their say and they get to be heard, and if they are
persuasive, they can prevail. If there can be no discussion, then we do not
need democracy, all we need is a King or a dictator. If there can be no
discussion, why even have democracy and America for Christ’s sake, we can all
be just like Iran and the Taliban, but only with knot headed Christians at the
helm instead of knot headed Muslims. Yeah, let’s stone women to death who go
out of the house without a veil and a male relative in tow.
It is fun to playfully fool around with preferences as if
they were actually general truths, and we know by our sheer facetiousness, that
we can’t possibly be serious. Sure I can carry on about Jerry Garcia, about
Toyotas and Hondas, about 100% acrylic paint, but I know that underneath, it is
all bluster and that what I prefer really doesn’t apply to someone else and it
makes no sense to try and convince someone to believe that my preferences are
somehow equal to objective truth (or that someone else would be happier being
me!). That is why big arguments can be sidestepped simply by prefacing a
statement, “to me…..”, or “in my opinion….”. That way the listener knows there
is no attack, no fundamentalist rigidity involved and that it is OK to discuss,
OK to air an opinion without being shot down by opinionated bullshit
masquerading as the truth.
Having said all this, and admittedly I have no “facts”, but
can there really be that big a difference between Ford and a Chevy? They both
have cabs, 4 wheels, a bed, an engine, can tow, can be big or average, are
warranted to go a certain amount of miles trouble free, they both hold material
and get us from here to there. Surely there are enough success stories on
either side to go around. The voodoo involved is strong, as I have observed
people with bad cases of Chevy hatred, or Ford hatred; they carry on like stuck
pigs. It is exactly the same as Muslims and Christians! Ford and Chevy are
intimate enemies. It is an endless argument about something that hurts no one,
that people get all pissed off about and it seems to me to be a ridiculous
waste of time and energy. Who gives a rat’s ass if a Toyota is better than a
Nissan or a Dodge or a Chevy? Live and let drive! I just wonder if people
really believe it or if it is a game to play to pass the time away while
standing around the yard.
Maybe you just enjoy playing Chevy and Ford for the dynamic
of it. I am not attacking you Davis, this is just a format for me to say a few
things that I have thought during exchanges we have had, and I have not had the
chance to ascertain how serious you really are, or how much game there is
involved.
I can only know from my own experience that what I think
sucks can be separated into two realms, whether I care or not. If I don’t care,
then the suck factor does not touch me. Generic Listerine is fine and does not
suck to me, as I don’t care, the ingredients are the same. I guess in my own
life, what sucks or not, or what has Quality or not, is more important to me in
my relationships than with stuff. With stuff, I don’t want dog shit and I don’t
need it to be gold coated, and I will learn and become allegiant to brands that
perform well in my experience. I’ll also take pride in being able to surmount
difficulties with materials or lack of desired brand, with my own ingenuity,
and in that way, I have admired many a Nissan in Mexico for the sheer
“Mexicanda” that it is.
Anyhow, I got the idea that it would be fun to write you an
essay about some of these topics, and that you might find it amusing, possibly
even enlightening, but I am totally prepared that you will not care at all, and
in that eventuality, I have at least demonstrated that I am interested in who
you are and what is inside all that bluster about Ford and Chevy. I like that
you have strong opinions and preferences, as that gives me something to latch
onto. So, anyhow again, here’s an essay for you, Happy New Year. Fred
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